Thursday, May 21, 2009

Kanjo said the CIA lied to him

Speaker Nancy Pelosi recently said about the CIA "They mislead us all the time'' in regards to being briefed on the torture techniques like waterboarding that were being used on prisoners in US custody. The usual Republican suspects were shocked and appalled that that she would accuse an intelligence agency that uses disinformation and has a long track record of lying to Congress and the American people of being less than truthful. Does anyone remember the Church Commission? John Boehner and Newt Gingrich are leading the charge demanding an investigation. Bring it on.

Senator Arlen Specter pointed out that "The CIA has a very bad record when it comes to honesty."
... Specter spoke of the CIA's role in the Iran-Contra affair, "Director Casey appeared and gave perjurious testimony to the Committee." He added that the CIA's deputy director had prepared Casey's testimony and that he, "Came within a hair's breadth of being prosecuted by an independent counsel."


And there is this Walter Brasch article from September 2007 via FDL's Emptywheel


"a god-damned lie"

In a town hall meeting in Bloomsburg, Pa. this week [leading up to September 3, 2007], Rep. Paul Kanjorski, a 12-term congressman, said that shortly before Congress was scheduled to vote on authorizing military force against Iraq, top officials of the CIA showed select members of Congress three photographs it alleged were Iraqi Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs), better known as drones. Kanjorski said he was told that the drones were capable of carrying nuclear, biological, or chemical agents, and could strike 1,000 miles inland of east coast or west coast cities.

Kanjorski said he and four or five other congressmen in the room were told UAVs could be on freighters headed to the U.S. Both secretary of state Condoleezza Rice and President Bush wandered into and out of the briefing room, Kanjorski said.

Kanjorski said it was the second time he was called to the White House for a briefing. He had opposed giving the President the powers to go to war, and said that he hadn't changed his mind after a first meeting. Until he saw the pictures, Kanjorski said, "I hadn't thought that Iraq was a threat." That second meeting changed everything. After he left that meeting, said Kanjorski, he was willing to give the President the authorization he wanted since the drones "represented an imminent danger."

[snip]

Several years later, Kanjorski said he learned that the pictures were "a god-damned lie," apparently taken by CIA photographers in the desert in the southwest of the U.S.


Down With Tyranny has more about the CIA

19 comments:

Barry said...

I think President Obama is letting us down by not investigating these serious issues. If people in our government lie and purposefully mislead us and it results in deaths as it has in the Middle East there ought to be some way to hold them accountable.

Coal Region Voice said...

Keith O's special comment on either election day or inauguration day, was about this issue.

Gort be careful pissing off the Company.

Zen said...

who can believe anything that comes out of Pelosi or Kanjo's mouths? one is batshit crazy and the other unapologetically gave 13.2 million tax dollars to his family and lied about it and had it cleared by the ethics board.

Anonymous said...

the lies about WMDs was not done by the CIA, it was done by the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans(OSP) led by Dog fife. Is it possible Kanjo meant he was lied to by intelligence guys, but not necessarily the CIA. Ironically one of the annalist for the OSP who lied to the country was Chris Carney

cia said...

I'll be surprised if anything gets investigated - not enough of a "looking back" appetite.

McGruff said...

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18300.htm

In a four-day period after that meeting in northeast Pennsylvania, Rep. Kanjorski did not return phone calls to follow up on his statements. The Department of Defense and the CIA did not comment. Certain representatives who could confirm the meeting were unavailable.

Typical Kanjorski. Won't back up his idle allegations. He makes more unfounded statements every day. Do you remeber the day he claimed he saved the world from financial ruin? Do you remember his Ney-Kanjorski bill? Good God. Kanjo is incapable of governing, incapable of thinking and incapable of telling the truth.

Big Dan said...

Only Republicans Are Allowed To Dispute The CIA...Don't forget: George HW Bush headed the CIA, that's important!

Big Dan said...

Do you think that someone who headed the CIA...has no ties to the CIA any longer? You better think again!

Big Dan said...

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when
everything the American public believes is false."

-- William Casey, CIA Director (from first staff meeting, 1981)

Big Dan said...

"Television is altering the meaning of "being informed" by creating a species of information that might properly be called disinformation... Disinformation does not mean false information. It means misleading information - misplaced, irrelevant, fragmented or superficial information - information that creates the illusion of knowing something, but which in fact leads one away from knowing."

Neil Postman

Big Dan said...

You have to keep reminding yourself this is not fantasy: that truly dangerous men, such as Perle and Rumsfeld and Cheney, have power. The thread running through their ruminations is the importance of the media: "the prioritized task of bringing on board journalists of repute to accept our position".

"Our position" is code for lying. Certainly, as a journalist, I have never known official lying to be more pervasive than today. We may laugh at the vacuities in Tony Blair's "Iraq dossier" and Jack Straw's inept lie that Iraq has developed a nuclear bomb (which his minions rushed to "explain"). But the more insidious lies, justifying an unprovoked attack on Iraq and linking it to would-be terrorists who are said to lurk in every Tube station, are routinely channeled as news. They are not news; they are black propaganda.

2002: Two years ago a project set up by the men who now surround George W Bush said what America needed was "a new Pearl Harbor". Its published aims have come alarmingly true

Big Dan said...

Wikipedia: Operation Mockingbird was a secret Central Intelligence Agency campaign to influence domestic and foreign media beginning in the 1950s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

Big Dan said...

Operation Northwoods
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Operation Northwoods memorandum (March 13, 1962).[1]Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a false-flag conspiracy plan, proposed within the United States government in 1962. The plan called for CIA or other operatives to commit apparent acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Castro-led Cuba. One plan was to "develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Big Dan said...

False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to deceive the public in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by other entities. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one's own. False flag operations are not limited to war and counter-insurgency operations, and have been used in peace-time; for example, during Italy's strategy of tension.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag

Big Dan said...

False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to deceive the public in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by other entities. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one's own. False flag operations are not limited to war and counter-insurgency operations, and have been used in peace-time; for example, during Italy's strategy of tension.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag

Big Dan said...

Operation Gladio
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Emblem of "Gladio", Italian branch of the NATO "stay-behind" paramilitary organizations. The motto means "In silence I preserve freedom".Gladio (Italian: sword) is a code name denoting the clandestine NATO "stay-behind" operation in Italy after World War II, intended to counter the eventual Warsaw Pact invasion of Western Europe. Although Gladio specifically refers to the Italian branch of the NATO stay-behind organisations, "Operation Gladio" is used as an informal name for all stay-behind organisations, sometimes called "Super Duper NATO".[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

Big Dan said...

Blowback Begins?: 42-Year CIA Vet Details the Agency's Rich History of Lying to Congress

Barry said...

ANOTHER GOD DAMMED LIE!
Anonymous Wrote:
"Ironically one of the annalist for the OSP who lied to the country was Chris Carney"
The truth is that Carney wrote a perfectly legitamite assessment and label it a 3 out of 10. In Pentagon terms that means "not dammed likely". Someone above Chris "stove piped" it to Scooter Libby and Cheney. The VP presented it to the President as a fact or 10 out of 10. Chris Carney did nothing wrong but his bosses did terrible things. I have that courage that telling the truth brings so I am proud to sign my real name to this. Something that the liar anonymous would not do.
Best wishes,
Barry O'Connell
Williamsport Pa.

willohroots said...

I would not believe kanjo under any conditions. he has lied to us about his statements, his plans,the damn dam, and admitted to blowing things out of proportion for political purposes.
The man has no credibility.